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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby RF34 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:48 am

@JoshDubowAP: Pryor's 135.7 rating highest for #Raiders QB since Gannon's 138.9 9/29/02 vs Tenn
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby DeadRinger » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:51 am

So far I've only seen highlights but there's only one CLEAR sense I get from this game: Tarver has earned my respect. This guy has taken a load of mediocre players and is clawing to make it work. We're the first team to make Rivers look somewhat bad. Really it was a mixed bag, as the guy still hung 411 yds on us. But our guys were MAKING PLAYS!! I haven't seen an OAK D make that many plays in a game since I can't even recall.

But clearly there was a good bit of luck involved here. SD put up 124 more yds than we did. Looks like Pryor fumbled at some point and we got it back. Pryor was sacked 4 times.

But good win, strong statement at home. I'm back in the hole $1k.
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby RF34 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:52 am

Raiders Beat ‏@RaidersBeat 1h Who anticipated this? Terrelle Pryor is 5th in the league in completion percentage (68.3), and has the 8th best QB rating (97.6). #Raiders
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby snakebuck » Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:57 am

We came out and beat the Chargers. I absolutely loved that on our first play, Pryor goes long to Streater and scored a TD. Good call from Olsen. That made a statement for the Raiders. Great defense last night too even though Rivers threw over 400 yards. A win is a win baby!!!
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby 790thSFS » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:09 am

Only if the Raiders can play like that every game.
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby RF34 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:58 am

Locker Room Buzz: Oakland Raiders

October, 7, 2013
3:51 AM ET

By Paul Gutierrez | ESPN.com
OAKLAND, Calif. -- Observed in the locker room after the Oakland Raiders' 27-17 win over the San Diego Chargers.

The Message: Standing like some sentry to Silver and Blackdom was a white dry-erase board with a slew of hand-written thoughts. Among them: “WHY?” “1-3, our record. Does this define us?” “How hungry are you?” and “Bring the wood.” Nowhere to be seen, though, was the blue baseball bat Marcel Reece brought onto the field before the game.

A new crowd: After his first career interception, D.J. Hayden was a popular man in the locker room for media types. For his nearby teammates? Not so much. Not when the throng pushed into Brandian Ross’ space. “Breakfast on D.J.,” Ross said, several times, before getting frustrated and stalking off, saying, “Man, why you bringing this heat over here?”

Of handoffs and hamstrings: Rashad Jennings, who was lost to a hamstring strain a week after becoming the starting running back in the wake of Darren McFadden’s strained hammy, dressed slowly and walked out gingerly.

Stylin’ and profilin’: Sio Moore yelled out to the nattily attired Charles Woodson, commenting on his expensive threads. Woodson’s response? “When you have 13 [defensive TDs], this is how you dress.”
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby DeadRinger » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:09 am

Shit, we need Jennings desperately. Someone take care of the man!
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby Tenebrous » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:29 am

DeadRinger wrote:Shit, we need Jennings desperately. Someone take care of the man!


Yeah, with McFadden injured and Reece playing with a hurt knee, the loss of Jennings is trouble. I expect to see more of Taiwan Jones back on offense. However, the Raiders need more of a grinder.
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby RF34 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:06 am

Raiders week 5 Ballers & Busters
By Levi Damien on Oct 8 2013, 3:12a

The question I had coming out of the Raiders Sunday night win over the visiting Chargers was ‘Where did that come from?' The Raiders had just one win on the season in which they went most of the game without a touchdown against the worst team in the NFL. Then they come out and put it on the Chargers on both sides of the ball for a 27-17 victory.

The Raiders jumped out to a quick 14-0 lead, held the Chargers scoreless in the first half and with the Chargers desperate to claw their way back, they racked up passing yards but also turned the ball over. In total there were five Raiders takeaways including three interceptions. This after going the first four weeks without a single interception.

In a game like this the Ballers & Busters is usually a bit more palatable. So, enjoy this week's fare.

Ballers

Terrelle Pryor

Things got going quickly for the Raiders offensive. And I mean the very first play from scrimmage. The Raiders got the ball on the Chargers 44-yard line after an interception. Then on the first play, Pryor dropped back, saw the coverage he wanted on Rod Streater and threw a 44-yard touchdown pass. The luxury of throwing a TD pass on one play, in a situation the Raiders didn't anticipate being in, was they could save their scripted drive for the next time they got the ball. When they did, Pryor executed the game plan with perfection. He drove the Raiders down the field flawlessly. On that drive he threw 7 straight completions including a third down conversion and finished it off with a designed roll right which froze the San Diego defense preparing for him to scramble only to have him stop, direct his receivers and throw a laser to Denarius Moore for the touchdown. 14-0. He began the game 10 of 10 for 115 yards and 2 touchdowns with a perfect QB rating.

The Challenge for Pryor was to keep up that level of play the rest of the game, which he was not able to do. However, unlike last week when a 14-0 lead was squandered quickly by the play of Matt Flynn, Pryor still managed to do enough to control the clock and not make big mistakes. He also had no turnovers. He did this while often having to scramble to try and make something happen with pressure in his face. He began the second half with a 35-yard hook-up with Denarius Moore but the drive ended after Moore was called for an illegal touch on what looked to be a TD and a sack on a blitz. Passing to kill the blitz is an area Pryor needs much improvement. He had one other decent drive in the second half that resulted in a 50-yard field goal to put the Raiders ahead by two scores late.

Kevin Burnett
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Just his tackle numbers alone are impressive. He led the team with 14 combined tackles (12 solo). But that doesn't automatically mean he had a great game. In fact, six of those tackles came on catches he gave up. No, the numbers don't tell the story. Stats lie. So, let's get to the meat of it.

His first play wasn't even a tackle. On a play on the Chargers' second drive, he cut off the outside edge which forced the running back inside where he was tackled for minimal gain. His second tackle was on a catch he gave up toAntonio Gates (most of them were), but he stopped him well short of the first down to force a punt. He had three tackles on the Chargers' next drive, the last two were both run stuffs. The final run stuff was with the Chargers at 4th and goal at the one yard line. He was the sole line of defense to plug the hole and met the runner head on to stop him for no gain and the Raiders took over on downs. Huge play by Burnett to keep the Chargers scoreless.

On the first drive of the third quarter, he sacked Phillip Rivers for an 11-yard loss. The next drive ended when he came up to hit Danny Woodhead at the line and stripped the ball out where it was returned for a Raiders touchdown and a 24-3 lead. The fourth quarter was a rough one for Burnett. He gave up several catches to Antonio Gates, was out of position on the Chargers' first touchdown. But the damage had been done already and Burnett was a big part of that. Gates is gonna get his and Phillip Rivers is going to find his best weapon and Burnett was the unlucky sod given the job of trying to stop it. Outside of that All Pro connection, Burnett had a tremendous game.

Lamarr Houston

The Chargers turned the ball over ton their third play of the game. The two plays before that went nowhere because of Lamarr Houston. He stuffed the run for a 2-yard gain on first down and then took those two yards away on the next play when he stuffed Woodhead for a two-yard loss on a short pass. The Chargers were then in third and long and Rivers threw his first interception. On the following series, he got pressure on Rivers and hit him as he threw for an incompletion. On a drive in the second quarter, he had a run stuff and a few plays later, sacked Rivers on third down for a loss of nine yards to end their last chance of scoring before the half. On the Chargers' first drive of the second half, he had another run stuff and another hit on Rivers to force an incompletion. He finished second on the team in solo tackles (6) and fourth in combined tackles (7) to go along with a sack, two tackles for loss, and a QB hurry.

Charles Woodson

The key to the Raiders winning most any game this season is turning the ball over. Charles Woodson was part of two of those turnover today. The first came in the third quarter when he recovered a fumble and returned it for a touchdown. It was the 13th defensive touchdown of his career which ties an NFL all-time record. The second turnover was the final play in the game that mattered. He picked off Phillip Rivers on his last ditch comeback attempt to seal the victory with :45 seconds remaining.

Nick Roach

We continue to very defensive feel to the Ballers & Busters with the Raiders' middle linebacker. Roach hit double digits in tackles in this game with 12 combined tackles which would be good for the team lead most weeks. Roach made his first play when he cut off Eddie Royal's route on the third play of the game which allowed Usama Young to run under and intercept the pass that went where Royal was supposed to be. Then on the ensuing drive, he had two run stuff tackles. Later he teamed up for with Houston for a tackle for loss with the Chargers at the 2-yard line.

Denarius Moore, Rod Streater

Something Streater has been doing much of this season is getting open for Terrelle Pryor and working his way back to him when he is scrambling. Denarius has picked up on this as well and the result has been some nice receptions. The two of them are showing themselves to be very much worthy of the top receiver spots on this team.

Streater got this started off when he caught the opening pass for a 44-yard touchdown. On the second drive, it was Denarius' turn to get into the act. He had three of the biggest catches of the day on that drive. First he caught an 11-yard pass on third and 3 in which he shielded off the defended like he was catching a basketball in the post. Next play he caught a short pass and broke out for 17 yards. Two plays later, Streater laid a key block on a Jacoby Fordcatch in the flat to help him pick up 10 yards and the first down. A few plays later, he finished it off by getting open in the back corner of the endzone for the touchdown catch.

On the next drive Streater had a drive saving catch on third and five in which he leapt to pull down a pass right at the sticks.

Just like the first play of the game for the Raiders offense, the first play of the second half was a long reception. This time it was Denarius Moore on the receiving end for 35 yards and he made the catch with the defender's arm chopped down on his forearms. Despite being called for pass interference, Moore still pulled it in and the Raiders were in business at the San Diego 36-yard line. Two plays later, Pryor went to Moore again on what looked to be a touchdown but it turned out Denarius had stepped out of bounds so it was an illegal touching. Following a sack, the drive ended with a punt instead of a field goal.

Vance Walker

Walker had more solo tackles in this game (3) than he had in the previous four games combined (2). He held up considerably well against the run, holding the Chargers to just 32 total yards on the ground and an average of 1.7 yards per carry. The Chargers all but abandoned the run in this game. After 13 attempts in the first half, they had just six in the second half.

Dennis Allen, Greg Olson, Jason Tarver

These three worked the game plan very well against the Chargers attack. Dennis Allen knows Mike McCoy from their season together in Denver and it seemed very much like Allen knew just what McCoy would do but there wasn't any advantage from McCoy's side of things.

Greg Olson showed great confidence in Terrelle Pryor by calling long pass plays to start the game and the second half, both of which resulted in long completions. The scripted drive was also very well coached and executed. It played on some of Pryor's known strengths while adding some surprises to the mix the Chargers weren't expecting.

A testament to Tarver's coaching is just how many different defensive Ballers on here. When this many players are performing well, credit goes to the man who coaches them. The ‘Prevent Defense' near the end of the game was not cool at all but credit to the defense for tightening up at the goal line and then putting the game away with turnovers.

Marquette King

He averaged nearly 50 yards per punt on six punts in this game with an average return of 7 yards. That number is skewed some by a touchback he had. Normally touchbacks are a bad thing but in this case it was acceptable. It was in the waning seconds of the first half where it was better to put the Chargers at the 20-yard line without much time to do anything than to risk a big return. The rest of his punts were great. His first punt came in the second quarter. It traveled 50 yards in the air but hung so long that Taiwan Joneswas able to be right on top of Eddie Royal as he tried to field it. King's punts are hard enough to field without worrying about getting rocked as soon as you catch it. The result was a Royal muff on a King punt and Chimdi Chekwawas crowned victorious with the recovery. The result was a Janikowski field goal.

His next punt in the third quarter traveled 34 yards and was downed at the nine-yard line. Then he boomed a 50 yarder that was fair caught at the 20-yard line. The following punt traveled 64 yards but he outpunted his coverage a bit to allow a 21-yard return. His final punt went 53 yards and bounced out of bounds. Pretty good day to be a King.

Mike Brisiel, Matt McCants

I group these two together as the solid right side of the Raiders' line in this game. Not only did McCants not give up a sack or even a pressure as far as I could tell, but they were very good in run blocking. Rashad Jennings' longest run went for nine yards and went through them. Marcel Reece's longest run went for 14 and also went through them. Brisiel is thus far this season living up to his status as a free agent signing last off-season. And how the Raiders keep finding these solid right tackles is really quite amazing.

Honorable Mention
Marcel Reece - The ever reliable one. He came in after Rashad Jennings left the game with a hamstring injury and it didn't seem like the Raiders lost a beat. In fact, he averaged 4.6 yards per carry which was a half yard per carry better than Jennings did in the first half. Reece did this last year too. He finished this game with 7 carries for 32 yards and 3 catches for 25 yards for a total of 57 yards from scrimmage.

Betweener

Tracy Porter

As he finds himself in the between, it was a mixed bag for Porter. Things started out closer to Buster for Porter. He gave up a 13-yard catch on third and 7 on the first drive then another 13-yard catch on the next drive followed by an unnecessary roughness penalty a few plays later and then gave up a 6-yard catch a few plays after that. Then things began to look up. He had a pass defended which led to a sack on the next play to end the drive. In the third quarter he had a run stuff tackle, gave up a 9-yard catch, and then ended the drive with a pass defended on third and one. Then on the field goal try, he blocked it. Unfortunately, the Chargers recovered and then ran for the first down. But there was Porter on the next play for an assist tackle for a short gain. They would get the field goal anyway. That was his day.

D.J. Hayden

Just the highlights/lowlights for Hayden. He gave up a 25-yard catch on third and 12 and a 14-yard catch to set them up in the redzone. Then he was beat byKeenan Allen in the back of the endzone but smartly pushed him out of bounds and Allen couldn't get the second foot down. They settled for a field goal. The Chargers' second TD drive was aided greatly by him being called for pass interference. The next drive he gave up a 16-yard catch as the Chargers drove to the 5-yard line. Then Hayden, after being beat initially by Allen, caught up to him and the ball was thrown behind Allen where Hayden made the interception. He giveth and he taketh away.

Even with Phillip Rivers throwing for 411 yards and 2 touchdowns, there isn't a lot of blame to go around for the Raiders. They played a really good game with the exception of a few mistakes here and there, none of which were detrimental to their chances. That's something worth keeping in mind when going over the Busters for this game.

Busters

Mike Jenkins

Midway through the fourth quarter, the Chargers came back closer than they had been since very early on. The score that brought them there was through Jenkins. He looked to have given up the touchdown already as he was completely burnt by Vincent Brown. As a response, he shoved Brown out the back of the endzone after the catch. The TD was no good because there was a San Diego illegal formation. But Jenkins was also called for unnecessary roughness which gave the Chargers a first down and set them up at the 15-yard line. Two plays later Keenan Allen caught the pass on Jenkins who then missed the tackle and Allen took it into the endzone and the Chargers were down just 24-17. He also gave up a 13-yard catch on the Chargers' first scoring drive of the day.

Andre Gurode

Stepping on your quarterback's foot even once is not good. Gurode stepped on Terrelle Pryor's foot twice in this game and both of them were drive killers. The first one came in the second quarter. The Chargers muffed the punt and the Raiders were in scoring position. Then on third and one, Gurode stepped on Pryor's foot, causing him to stumble. He would eventually throw it incomplete after the busted play and the Raider would settle for a field goal. The next toe-stepping occurred early in the fourth quarter. This time Pryor tried to get up and run it after stumbling and was tackled for a loss to help force a three-and-out. We should have known this was gonna be a long day when he false started on the second play from scrimmage.
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Re: Raiders vs. fucking San Diego

Postby RF34 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:13 am

Raiders' Allen: Don't call it a 'prevent' D
October, 9, 2013
Paul Gutierrez | ESPN.com ALAMEDA, Calif. – From some fans’ perspective, the only thing a “prevent” defense does is prevent a team from winning.

And yet, there it was, on full display late in the Oakland Raiders’ 27-17 win over San Diego Sunday night, defensive players falling far back and allowing Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers to pick the Raiders apart underneath.

Except … that was the Raiders’ goal. And it worked, as the Chargers simply ran out of time to complete the comeback.

Oh, and one more thing: Don’t call it a “prevent” defense.

"The key is, in those situations, is that the only way a team can beat you is to get the ball over your head; we let them do it one time in the game … and one time is too many,” said Raiders coach Dennis Allen. “So we don’t use the term ‘prevent defense.’ We’ll never use the term ‘prevent defense.’ But there is 'situational defense.'"

Such was the case when the Raiders led by 10 points and the Chargers had the ball at their own 20-yard line with 4:24 to play and two timeouts remaining, plus the two-minute warning.

Running a no-huddle offense out of the shotgun, San Diego took advantage of the open real estate underneath, converting on receptions of 20, 16 and 24 yards on their first three plays of the series. In fact, four of the seven “explosive” passing plays the Raiders gave up – Allen describes an explosive play as one that gains at least 16 yards through the air, 12 yards on the ground – came after the Raiders went up 27-17.

Indeed, the Chargers got down to the Raiders’ 4-yard line, but there was just 1:53 to play, and the drive was snuffed out in the end zone when rookie cornerback D.J. Hayden picked off Rivers' pass in the back of the end zone.

“I was focused on [Charles] Woodson there,” Rivers said. “I had him where I wanted him and I didn’t see [No.] 25 there.”

Still, had the Chargers scored a touchdown, or even kicked a field goal, they would have been within one score of the Raiders and would have been in line to attempt an onside kick with those two timeouts still in their pocket.

Call it a “prevent” or even a “situational” defense, it did not prevent the Raiders from winning last weekend.

“You have to be smart, you have to understand what an offense is going to try and do to you, and at that point in time, yards don’t cost you anything,” Allen said. “The only thing that costs you is points.

“The key for us was eliminating points, and when we got down in the red zone, defensively, we were able to do a pretty good job of keeping them out of the end zone.”
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