QB's Compared By the Numbers

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QB's Compared By the Numbers

Postby Tenebrous » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:42 pm

With respect to quarterbacks in the draft, you’ll always hear pundits make observations such as, “this QB has a great deep ball” or “he always folds when he’s under pressure in the pocket.” But how do you know those are true and not bias from a small sample of observed snaps? The simple answer is that you don’t. What I’ve aimed to do this year (and in years past) is to quantify those observations in an effort complement film study and analysis of draft prospects. Instead of guessing about the potency of Manziel’s deep ball, you can pull up the legitimate statistic.

To do that, I’ve hand charted every one of Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, Johnny Manziel, and Blake Bortles’ attempts this year on everything from pass distance to throws against the blitz. The data here can’t render an opinion for you, but it can provide an effective complement to your knowledge on a prospect.

Where Did They Throw the Ball?

The ‘zones’ in the chart represent where the QB threw the ball on the field, that is exactly the spot the receiver caught the ball. This is to make sure yards after the catch don’t influence our opinion on the QBs.

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- Most notable for Bridgewater is the lack of screens incorporated in the offense. Some have said that Bridgewater throws a high quantity of short passes, however the screens a QB normally utilizes have become short throws so that Bridgewater throws 53% of his passes in the 1-10 yard zones.

- Derek Carr is the complete opposite, throwing 33% of his passes behind the line of scrimmage, but few in the 1-10 yard range. The high number of short attempts means that he throws the deep ball less than average 11.35% of the time. In addition he throws to the important intermediate zone (11-20 yards) 18.3% of the time which means overall he pushes the ball down the field less than normal.

- Similar to Carr, Bortles doesn’t throw the deep ball as much as average, but makes up for it by hitting intermediate routes more often - throwing from 6-20 yards 40% of the time.

- In an era of screen passes, Manziel threw the deep ball far more than the other QBs he’s compared to here. Manziel targeted his WRs nearly 19% of the time on passes deeper than 20 yards and still went to his intermediate targets 19% of the time.

How Accurate Were They?

This requires a bit of explaining. The chart below represents each QBs accuracy in the individual target zones when adjusting for drops by their receivers. The colors represent how that accuracy compares to the ‘Average QB’, green is better than average, yellow average, red is below-average. Let’s get to it.

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- It’s pretty clear that Bridgewater cleans up in every zone except the deep ball. He’s excellent throwing the short ball where he’s about 6-7% above average for the two zones. Some have criticized Bridgewater’s deep ball, and while not bad - his completion percentage of about 51% is about average.

- Having a big arm is a trait that every scout desires, but that doesn’t matter if it’s not particularly effective. Derek Carr’s accuracy on 20+ yard throws is poor, coming in nearly 7% below-average. In addition, his accuracy on NFL type throws (11-20 yards) is just about as expected at 64%. His only redeeming category is in the 6-10 yard range where he is slightly above average.

- There's an interesting dichotomy in Bortles’ throw ability. His 55% completion percentage on deep throws is extremely positive, but he’s only average on the intermediate throws hitting 64% of his total targets. However, he’s above average in the 6-10 range as well, so it’s likely that hitting that intermediate zone is just a matter of getting the touch down.

- For all the criticism Manziel gets, he’s extremely good at hitting his targets downfield. His ‘NFL type’ throws in the 11-20 yard range is the highest in the top 8 QBs in this class at 70.5% and he’s slightly better than Bortles at hitting the 20+ yard throws.

- Before we start getting into the debates about Manziel scrambling around the heaving it up for Mike Evans…his accuracy was similar when throwing solely from the pocket, hitting 67% of his 11-20 yard passes and 59% of his 20+ yard passes

How Do They Do Under Pressure?

I’ve got quite a few stats for these QBs, but for the sake of brevity I’ve picked their completion percentage while being blitzed and under pressure to highlight. For reference, a blitz counts regardless of whether the O-line picks it up, but under pressure is when the QB is moved off his spot or has to get rid of the ball quicker than anticipated.

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- Upon first glance it’s pretty clear that Carr is lacking in both categories. His 50% completion percentage when under pressure is the worst among the top 8 QBs in this class and he’s not setting the world ablaze against the blitz either.

- When looking at both categories, Bridgewater is the clear winner. He and Bortles both complete about 63% of their passes when under pressure, but Bridgewater is heads above the other QBs against the blitz – nearly matching his ability when there are no extra rushers.

- Bortles has been noted for his success when under pressure and it shows here, hitting 63% of his passes when the defense is bearing down. He has the second highest completion percentage against the blitz at 71.05%.

- Manziel’s just about average in both categories where he’s just about where you’d expect a top notch college QB to be.

How Did Their Systems Affect Them?

My goal here was to take out the variability of systems they all played in. Thus, how would Derek Carr have performed in an average system? This is imperfect, but it gives you a feel for how the systems helped or harmed them.

What I’ve done is taken out drops and then used the data to create an average system. The result is what their overall completion percentage would have been if they had played in an average system and the difference between the actual and adjusted completion percentages.

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- Bridgewater, Bortles and Manziel’s systems had a limited effect on their results from the 2013 season. As you can see in the first section, none of them played in a system that put them in a position to artificially increase their production.

- Derek Carr on the other hand would lose 3.5% off his completion percentage for the season. When you decrease his number of screens which are a high percentage pass and increase the number of below-average deep passes – it shows how much effect the system had on his production.

- Below you can find a target chart for each QB detailed here. The graphic shows the location of each target for the quarterback broken down into individual spots on the field. The bigger the circle, the more passes a QB threw to that spot. The colors signify accuracy, the brighter red – the hotter or more accurate the QB was. The more blue spots represent cold or less accurate areas.

- The charts don’t give you any statistical insight, but are there to give you a feel for how the QB did throwing to certain areas. IE…did Bridgewater do well throwing to his left, outside the numbers or how frequently did Bortles target the middle of the field.

That’s the extent of this post, lest I write a novel going into every stat I have.

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http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/45952/349/2014s-quarterback-conundrum?pg=2


Very interesting. Though, for fairness, it should be noted that Manziel's numbers were against more notable defenses.
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Re: QB's Compared By the Numbers

Postby FreddieB25 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:00 pm

None of that fuckin matters!!! Once they put on our uniform and coached up by our bush league staff and paid by our jew boy owner with the fuckin tard haircut they will suck it real bad!!
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Re: QB's Compared By the Numbers

Postby silver & black » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:22 pm

FreddieB25 wrote:None of that fuckin matters!!! Once they put on our uniform and coached up by our bush league staff and paid by our jew boy owner with the fuckin tard haircut they will suck it real bad!!


LOL.... and I thought I was pesamistic!

Calm down a little. It's just football. It aint life and death. Nothing to get that worked up over. Yea, it sucks to be a Raiders fan right now. Look on the bright side... you're alive and healthy enough to bitch about something as mundane as a football team on a message board. there are way more importent things to get worked up over.

Having said that..... fuck this fuckin' team and it's piss poor coaching staff and FO!!! :lol:
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Re: QB's Compared By the Numbers

Postby Forbiddenraider » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:34 pm

WE NEED TO DRAFT MANZIEL! MCGLOIN AND PRYOR ARE FUCKIN SHIT! Manziel comes here we continue to lose for a while then fire Allen and bring in Sumlin
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Re: QB's Compared By the Numbers

Postby FreddieB25 » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:02 am

Forbiddenraider wrote:WE NEED TO DRAFT MANZIEL! MCGLOIN AND PRYOR ARE FUCKIN SHIT! Manziel comes here we continue to lose for a while then fire Allen and bring in Sumlin


I have no problem with McGloin. Pryor is shit!! Manziel and McGloin on the roster would be nice.
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Re: QB's Compared By the Numbers

Postby DeadRinger » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:04 am

My only real issue with Manziel is that I see rehab stints in his future, and probably some jail time as well. Anyone remember Marinovich? Or Russell with his drank? Or McClain? This is serious shit people. Manziel is a genius on the football field, but a psycho party boy off of it.

He's also a bit undersized but Drew Brees puts my mind somewhat at ease in that area.
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