Why was Hue fired for going 8-8?

[Forbiddenraider]

Hue fired for going 8-8 & turning the offense into one of the best in the league & DA goes 4-12 two years in a row with 3-4 total blowouts and regression instead of progression. McKenzie was a fat arrogant prick when he fired Hue, now he should be fired but since Davis is such a ball less little spoiled dumb ass clueless prick we have to sit thru another brutal year next year & with Reggie handling the draft & free agents were fucked for another five years. Jerkofffs

[Tenebrous]

Why? There's no good answer unfortunately. Pride, stupidity, ignorance? Maybe all three.

[Tenebrous]

So back-to-back 4-12 seasons will get a Raider coach a 3rd year, but one 8-8 season under incredible adversity is enough to get a Raider coach fired. Mark Davis, look at the message you are sending - incompetence will be rewarded while achievement will be punished. Just unbelievable.

[SoulPatrol]

I know why!!! It is because Fat Black Carrot Top wanted to bring in his own lousy cronie

[silver & black]

I know why!!! It is because Fat Black Carrot Top wanted to bring in his own lousy cronie

I'm sure RM did want to bring in his own guy/s. If you were brought in to run/change an organisation wouldn't you want to start with guys of your own choosing? I know I would. Yes, in hindsight it was a bad decision to get rid of Hue but, I do understand why RM wanted to start fresh.

I liked Hue..... as many of you did. I also thought Hue got too big for his britches. I hated the Carson Palmer trade. I hated the manicure fiasco. I also think RM should have retained him..... with a stern talking to as to who runs things and his part in it. We would have been much better off if it went down like that (probably). It's just water under the bridge at this point. It's time to stop dwelling on what might/could have been and get on with what will be.

Trust me, I've been a Raiders fan for 46 years (not that it means shit). I understand why everyone is so pissed off. I never thought I would see one of the greatest teams in the NFL become the worst franchise in the league, let alone continue the futility for over a decade. All we can do as fans is sit back and see what happens.

[Tenebrous]

I know why!!! It is because Fat Black Carrot Top wanted to bring in his own lousy cronie

I'm sure RM did want to bring in his own guy/s. If you were brought in to run/change an organisation wouldn't you want to start with guys of your own choosing? I know I would. Yes, in hindsight it was a bad decision to get rid of Hue but, I do understand why RM wanted to start fresh.

I liked Hue..... as many of you did. I also thought Hue got too big for his britches. I hated the Carson Palmer trade. I hated the manicure fiasco. I also think RM should have retained him..... with a stern talking to as to who runs things and his part in it. We would have been much better off if it went down like that (probably). It's just water under the bridge at this point. It's time to stop dwelling on what might/could have been and get on with what will be.

Trust me, I've been a Raiders fan for 46 years (not that it means shit). I understand why everyone is so pissed off. I never thought I would see one of the greatest teams in the NFL become the worst franchise in the league, let alone continue the futility for over a decade. All we can do as fans is sit back and see what happens.

While I agree with the latter part of your post, I still disagree with the former. Yes, a GM normally picks their guy, but a GM normally comes to a team that is stuck at rock bottom. In Oakland, the GM died as the team was finally showing signs of moving up. Thus, the typical solution was not necessarily the best solution for Oakland's atypical situation. To put it another way, if, for example, the GM of the Seahawks or Chiefs were to pass away (knock on wood), would it make sense for a new GM to step in and immediately fire Carroll or Reid?! Of course not.

[silver & black]

I know why!!! It is because Fat Black Carrot Top wanted to bring in his own lousy cronie

I'm sure RM did want to bring in his own guy/s. If you were brought in to run/change an organisation wouldn't you want to start with guys of your own choosing? I know I would. Yes, in hindsight it was a bad decision to get rid of Hue but, I do understand why RM wanted to start fresh.

I liked Hue..... as many of you did. I also thought Hue got too big for his britches. I hated the Carson Palmer trade. I hated the manicure fiasco. I also think RM should have retained him..... with a stern talking to as to who runs things and his part in it. We would have been much better off if it went down like that (probably). It's just water under the bridge at this point. It's time to stop dwelling on what might/could have been and get on with what will be.

Trust me, I've been a Raiders fan for 46 years (not that it means shit). I understand why everyone is so pissed off. I never thought I would see one of the greatest teams in the NFL become the worst franchise in the league, let alone continue the futility for over a decade. All we can do as fans is sit back and see what happens.

While I agree with the latter part of your post, I still disagree with the former. Yes, a GM normally picks their guy, but a GM normally comes to a team that is stuck at rock bottom. In Oakland, the GM died as the team was finally showing signs of moving up. Thus, the typical solution was not necessarily the best solution for Oakland's atypical situation. To put it another way, if, for example, the GM of the Seahawks or Chiefs were to pass away (knock on wood), would it make sense for a new GM to step in and immediately fire Carroll or Reid?! Of course not.

I definitely agree with you. I was just pointing out the probable reason for letting Hue go. It happens all the time in busuness, which the NFL is, right or wrong.

[DeadRinger]

I definitely agree with you. I was just pointing out the probable reason for letting Hue go. It happens all the time in busuness, which the NFL is, right or wrong.

As a businessman I can tell you that it does indeed happen all the time in business. BAD business. It only happens when some executive has an agenda/priorities that don't include what's best for the company. These kinds of decisions SINK organizations every single day.

So while your assertion is correct, it is more damning for Reggie than it is an explanation or an excuse.

[FreddieB25]

I've said it many times before, Mark Davis made the decision to can Hue! He didn't like Hue getting Palmer for all those draft picks and they didn't even make the playoffs. 8-8 isn't bad but it isn't 11-5 or 12-4 and playoffs and a typical Raider successful season that they were known for during the good old days. Davis was looking to clean up the cap purgatory anyway for the 2012 season and beyond. Mark Davis should have kept Hue, Palmer and Michael Bush, dump all the other salaries that RM ended up doing and build from there.